I live in Mary Street and have watched the gradual destruction of the village over the last 20 years. The village has a history and all of this is being removed in the name of progress. We are losing our identity. Please reconsider the demolition of 30 Mary Street in the interests of our heritage. We definitely don't need 10 town houses in the street.
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Where is DA for public viewing; cannot find on exhibition in Council website? (DA0625/2021)
Is this home heritage listed?
Land Application LEP Shellharbour Local Environmental Plan 2013
Land Zoning R2: Low Density Residential
These Documents - State Government - remove most control from Shellharbour City Council to reject or oversee (state allows private assessors to be employed BY THE DEVELOPER) the construction of what I call JUNK, GHOST, PRISON BLOCK UNITS.
They are NOT AFFORDABLE and they ARE EXPENSIVE for the product you are getting - MARK UP BY DEVELOPERS 300% . People are desperate to buy not realising they are buying a unit not suitable for families, the elderly or those with a disability. They are CONDED to believe its easy living. vacancy rates are high - high rentals demanded by investors and the sheer lack of internal living space and parking space , noise, limit to 3 hours of sunlight a day etc. !!!!!!! So occupants are transitional .INVESTORS BEWARE - even with negative gearing - NO WIN CIRCUMSTANCE - TALK TO A QUALIFIED ACCOUNTANT to give you a yearly cash flow statement , an obtain a Quantity Surveyors Report to show you the true build cost - minus fixtures and fittings. Best wishes to those to have already over committed to an oversupplied market.
Agreed Kin Baker.
I think you will find there is no “town planner” now, but an approval “team” so it’s no ones decision but a team, or focus group making the call.
The world has gone soft.
All
Of our concerns fall on deaf ears.
Seriously!!!! MORE!!!!
Let the erosion of Oak Flats’ community vibe be shattered by medium density, overpopulation & visual desiccation.
Why?
I’d really like to talk with the town planner in council who is signing off on these forms of housing.
The units will denigrate the location aesthetically. This why people sell, they don't want trashy looking neighbouring units with itinerate tenants that nobody knows who they are. The value of their properties becoming stagnate and loss of privacy and community (neighbour interaction) because in reality, really council - nobody wants these prison blocks next door. Even though State Governments do the regulating, they have NO IDEA of what LOCAL PEOPLE WANT. Council SHOULD !!!!. THEY DO NOT WANT ANY MORE HIGH DENSITY VACANT JUNK UNITS NOT SUITABLE FOR THE ELDERLY, YOUNG FAMILIES WITH SMALL CHILDREN, NO ALLOWANCE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILIES . Two decent single storey units with tree planting/lawn , solar panels, double glazing , solar hot water , skylights etc. are much more suitable for the location. Also this would meet privacy requirements. None of the existing units in Oak Flats meet high standard of design (no award winning designs - dull same old like the old housing commission houses/units - they were an eye sore - yet Government is repeating the mistake), commitment to open areas of recreation with the building lots, impacts on shadowing of adjoining fauna and flora (3 hrs sunlight is absolutely ridiculous for the neighbours and natures needs) . Then comes the parking - insufficient parking onsite for tenants/visitors. (just refer to parking issues in Wollongong - two way two lanes streets have been made - only one lane on way streets - the congestion is arduous and the areas look ugly and unkempt ) also the parking spaces are much too small for modern vehicles - all planers need to do is look at the number of RV 4x4 etc. parked in front of garages and on the street. I have tried manoeuvering my 4x2 in a number of the many vacant or near vacant units - even with forward and reversing cameras - you can only drive in and have to reverse out. Every two bedroom unit must have 2 realistically sized garages/parking spaces. Furthermore for every unit there must be a realistically sized off street parking space, THIS IS GOOD PLANNING for the future to have permanent citizens.
With the Place of worship, and an added 3townhouses,we can only ask. How much thought has gone into possible infrastructure issues. Please consider these issues. Been between Central Ave and Moore St, both carry large volumes of trafic for residential areas, access for residence is going to be an issue.
Ian Squires.
Fantastic idea
The sight has been an eye saw. For a long time
Good on McDonald’s for submitting a beautiful
Building with parking underneath
Totally agree with the commentors Kim and Fiona.
These are "Junk Units" poor quality very very small (note: they dont provide
details of living space) which includes garage(s) private patio (if it has one
at all). A two bedroom would be lucky to be 6 sqs (old home 10-12). They are
unsuitable for families, the elderly , the disabled (kitchen toilet design),
step narrow stairs. No green open areas trees footpaths , blind corners in yard,
parking in garage or parking spaces are too small for modern vehicles, so they use garage
as temporary stay in their temporary home. Nothing to attract families etc. They attract
temporary itnerate occupation at about 50%. Few occupants are long term. Its all they
can afford. Their home 12sqs is sold for the same price these dumps are selling for.
Families cannot purchase as agents give developers first dibs. Thus afforability is LOST
- build + land $200k, sold $600K each. So much for State Government Zoning changes. The investor losses
big time (real dip into the pocket real money losses) - they just don't know it yet - wait for two tax years on .... .They are
promised the moon on an already oversupplied marked of Junk Units.
Shellharbour area looks like a cheap and nasty area to live in rather than a treed green space of well designed units with facilities like play grounds etc. city.
I would hope that there is Plenty of On Site Parking, as that is an Issue on that Corner Now. And with the 4 Townhouses already Almost completed on the other side of the Lane I Don't think it will be long Before Prangs are a Common event there. Btw The Road Surface that Council Spent a Fortune Repairing a few years back on the Bend, has suddenly Developed a Lot of Depressions after the Delivery Of Concrete and Bricks to the almost finished Joint.... Who pays for the Damaged Road ?? Ratepayers I Guess
I agree the infrastructure is not coping with the multiple homes on a block. So many cars- no private outdoor space. Greedy developers hand in hand with realestate agents raiding opportunistically. Yes the sellers get a good price then three homes pop up on a block. High Density is killing us. Just my opinion as a resident of 60 years.
Seriously, NOT MORE!!!!!! please, no more council!!!!!! They lack character & will place more pressure on the existing infrastructure, let alone reduce the value of housing in the area.
NO MORE TOWNHOUSES…. Come on please!!! STOP! Just because it’s allowed with zoning and NSW Regulations, doesn’t mean you have to allow them!
In Regards to development application for 91 Bushranger Parade Calderwood NSW 2527, we would like to note our concerns to the building of a 2 storey dwelling in this location. Currently all the houses around this block are all single level homes and this would mean privacy would be a huge issue for not only the neighbouring homes but also due to the sloping nature of Hollow Way and Brotheridge Ave this 2 storey house would cause privacy issues for a few home owners. We feel that a single storey dwelling would be more in keeping with the surrounding homes and lead to better privacy for current homeowners.
Thankyou
It's a bit late with the planning alert Shellharbour Council as it's already completed.
This should have been out before it was started.
It looks nice finished
I live across the road from 78 Gugara Street. Is it possible to see drawings of the proposed building?
Thank you
Reply from Shellharbour Council 7/9/21 relating to resident concerns of DA0334
Good Morning,
Thank you for your comments in relation to this proposal.
Our records indicate that this submission was received outside of the exhibition period and via an external website not associated with Shellharbour City Council.
In this regard we write to advise you that in accordance with Shellharbour City Councils Community Participation Plan (CPP), Council is unable to consider submissions that are received through an external website. A copy of the CPP is found here.
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From: PlanningAlerts
Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2021 7:05 PM
To: Information Management
Subject: DAM0098/2021 - Christine McDonald - Submission - 32 Addison Avenue Lake Illawarra
For the attention of the General Manager / Planning Manager / Planning Department
Application
DAM0098/2021
Address
32 Addison Avenue Lake Illawarra NSW 2528
Description
Modification to DA0334/2018 - (Demolition of Existing Structure and Construction of Three Townhouses ) - Modification to Facade, Roof Form, Materials and Finishes and Position of Dwellings on Site
Name of commenter
Christine McDonald
Address of commenter
4 /29 Addison Ave Lake Illawarra
Email of commenter
chrisbgb@yahoo.com.au
Comment
Further to the above, as a recent resident close to 32 Addison Ave I would defiantly like investigation from Councils of any flooding impact from this proposed development. A neighbour did recently spoke of street flooding in 2019/20 that came up the driveways in the street. Perhaps Council needs to address this issue as their appears to be a number of proposed Townhouse developments in Addison Ave Lake Illawarra which is currently deemed to be at risk of one in one hundred year flooding.
Perhaps the previous single dwelling drainage works by Sydney Water is not able to manage the escape of water from drains for multiples housing developments on Addison Avenue large blocks of lands. If this be the case than any future developments effects on flooding need to considered by Sydney Water and Shellharbour Council.
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Further to the above, as a recent resident close to 32 Addison Ave I would defiantly like investigation from Councils of any flooding impact from this proposed development. A neighbour did recently spoke of street flooding in 2019/20 that came up the driveways in the street. Perhaps Council needs to address this issue as their appears to be a number of proposed Townhouse developments in Addison Ave Lake Illawarra which is currently deemed to be at risk of one in one hundred year flooding.
Perhaps the previous single dwelling drainage works by Sydney Water is not able to manage the escape of water from drains for multiples housing developments on Addison Avenue large blocks of lands. If this be the case than any future developments effects on flooding need to considered by Sydney Water and Shellharbour Council.
This is not a good location for a Macdonalds Restaurant what so ever.
This area is a absolute disaster as it is with the current traffic congestion, its pretty much a no go zone in peak times.
It's already stressful enough to travel through Tongarra road to get to work and back each day from Tullimbar and at any day or time in general.
It takes me less time to travel from work in Industrial road Oak Flats, to the Albion Park town hall than it takes to reach my home in Tullimbar from the town hall !!
This was also the case prior to any covid restrictions...
We are not in need of any more traffic around here and we are more than happy to drive to Macdonalds in Albion Park Rail.
I sincerely hope common sense will prevail in this case.
I would like to see a copy of the plans because I’m concerned about the placement of this development as of what Sydney water has in the alleyway as you can’t build within a certain distance of there asset eg: 375mm sewer rising main a council stormwater pipe of 200mm witch constantly floods the street and surrounding property’s I will be contacting Sydney water to let them no of the proposed development on the assets
what belongs is a two storey brick veneer 3 and 2 bedroom unit . ground floor and first floor concrete slab. 3.5 insulation walls roof area. all internal plaster walls and ceilings be 13 mm sound proof and flame proof plaster. pitched roof to permit south facing to be fitted with solar panels and solar hot water via off-peak electric heater . north roof include sky-lights double glazed . Commercial gutter and plumbing system to fill and access 5000 to 10000 rainwater tank - to feed hot water system toilets laundry and misc. large windows sliders front and back. all glass double glazed. See two examples on Reddall Pde - large under garage large balcony large windows to appreciate view .
not another non architech build of units . bthey are so bad - quality inclusions space light insulation drainage - not suitable for families with children or older residents because the build makes them a fall hazard a run over hazard and are definite fire harzards . The parking is for mini minors not the now common 4x2 awd wagons etc . again no green - in the real sense - landscaped gardens what a joke less than 1% of the area of the block . The boom is over on the buyers side they have realised that they are being ripped off. The current vacancies are greater than 50% so i hope the developers do their dow .
Changes have been made and the developer is trying to get the boarding house passed again. Not social/affordable housing just a grab for large rent by a Sydney developer. I strongly object as this only serves to make one person wealthy whilst cramming many short term boarders into tiny rooms on a small block in a quiet residential area.
To anyone reading these comments. Shellharbour Council have replied to me saying that they will not accept submissons from an external website. You must send your submission to council@shellharbour.nsw.gov.au. While this website is useful, the submission must be direct to Council. the letter I received as per below.
So, please send submissions direct by COB 16.8.21 URGENTLY.
" In this regard we write to advise you that in accordance with Shellharbour City Councils Community Participation Plan (CPP), Council is unable to consider submissions that are received through an external website. A copy of the CPP is found within the below link.
https://cdn.shellharbour.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/Plan_and_build_documents/Community_Participation_Plan.pdf
Should you wish to make a formal submission on this proposal, the submission should:
- Be received by Council on or before the last day of the exhibition timeframe (unless otherwise specified by Council)
- Be in writing (via mail, email to council@shellharbour.nsw.gov.au, or hand delivered) and addressed to: The Chief Executive Officer Shellharbour City Council Locked Bag 155 Shellharbour City Centre NSW 2529
- Contain the following essential information: the name and address of the person making the submission, the application number and address of the property that is the subject of the development proposal and detail all reasons for the submission."
All for it ✅
Can see why McDonalds is putting it there as the new Illawarra Hwy off ramp leads to this intersection, anyone from Sydney heading south since the bypass is complete, this will now be readily accessible especially if heading to Jamberoo.
In regards to traffic issues. The Tripoli Way bypass needs to be fast tracked to mitigate the congestion on Tongarra Road.
A service station would be better suited on the Illawarra Hwy northern on/off ramp.
The height, scale and massing of the proposed structures will dominate the surrounds and not respond positively to the surrounding context.
The hours of operation of the proposed business will create unacceptable amenity impacts upon the surrounding area.
There is an over-intensification of this land use type in the suburb and surrounds - we don't need more - we need to fight back against bland strip mall type development and also defend our childrens' health.
We need to have an attractive tourist route for the south coast if it just feels like part of Sydney tourists will be repelled.
Insufficient information has been provided regarding the impacts of the development and their management in the context of pests, vermin, traffic, light, noise and odour upon the surrounding area.
The height, scale and massing of the proposal represents an overdevelopment of the site.
On balance the proposal represents an inappropriate planning outcome and the only appropriate decision of the Responsible Authority is one of Refusal.