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I feel this development will create more congestion on our very busy crossroad intersection. I have nothing against McDonald's but feel would creat excess unessary congestion on our streets. I live in O'Gorman st which is used as a shortcut, the majority of our residence are over 65
My concerns are where are they going to drive in and out as I could not see any plans on the council site
I feel this development will create more congestion on our very busy crossroad intersection. I have nothing against McDonald's but feel would creat excess unessary congestion on our streets. I live in O'Gorman st which is used as a shortcut, the majority of our residence are over 65
My concerns are where are they going to drive in and out as I could not see any plans on the council site
Traffic concerns as freeway nth bound traffic will want Macca's stop. That set of lights is busy enough with just local traffic let alone added inbound/outbound traffic from that one spot.
I'm not against progress but the location is poorly thought out when considering rate paying residents current traffic concerns.
Surely we can consider a better location inside albion park?
I must say surely Traffic congestion in Albion Park should be addressed firstly before even considering this development. Traffic around Tongarra Rd and Terry Street is already at breaking point. This will not improve with the addition of a McDonald's with easy access to and from the new motorway will only make this intersection worse.
So a bypass is being built for traffic to avoid Albion Park, but there's now a proposal for a McDonalds to be built in the middle of it which would attract more traffic again and make it just as busy. And if it's a drive thru, where will the entrance and exit be? The junction of Terry Street and Tongarra road is always busy. Not a good idea at all.
Love it, keep the upgrades coming.
a) Traffic – the traffic report is understated. It will create chaos at peak hours.
b) Increased traffic will be drawn off the Highway impacting Terry, Tongarra, O’Gorman & Russell Streets.
c) Pedestrians and people on mobility scooters crossing the exit and entrance on Terry Street cannot access the CBD safely as the western side has three busy exits and entrances. There are school and Warrigal Care Retirement Village close by.
d) Rubbish will litter our CBD and beyond
e) Negative impact on small business food and coffee outlets.
f) Community will break down
g) Heritage of Albion Park not preserved
h) We will turn into a “Drive through town”
i) Flooding at the corner of Tongarra and Terry Streets
a) Traffic – the traffic report is understated. It will create chaos at peak hours.
b) Increased traffic will be drawn off the Highway impacting Terry, Tongarra, O’Gorman & Russell Streets.
c) Pedestrians and people on mobility scooters crossing the exit and entrance on Terry Street cannot access the CBD safely as the western side has three busy exits and entrances. There are school and Warrigal Care Retirement Village close by.
d) Rubbish will litter our CBD and beyond
e) Negative impact on small business food and coffee outlets.
f) Community will break down
g) Heritage of Albion Park not preserved
h) We will turn into a “Drive through town”
i) Flooding at the corner of Tongarra and Terry Streets
A service station is what we desperately need. Not another junk food outlet. C'mon let's be serious here and think about it. Really?
The intersection is already congested. We are in need of much more in this town other than a fast food outlet. There is already a Mcdonald’s 2km down the road. We need more infrastructure in this small town. A town that is rapidly growing and still only have one service station and one supermarket.
As a local small business owner i am continually cleaning vip rubbish from outside my business every morning from the current takeaways we have.We do not need more.
Why do we need another McDonalds when there is one in Albion Park Rail? It's not necessary. You could use this real estate for so many other things. This area is already so busy especially during school pick up and early evening, this is going to create even more traffic to annoy the locals with. The bypass was meant to lessen the traffic through this area and now you countering that by adding in a macca's? Stupid. I really hope you don't go through with it.
1. There is already major traffic issues on tongarra road and Terry street. But having a popular fast food restaurant on the corner will increase congestion on both Terry street and tongarra road.
2. If it's a 24/7 maccas this will bring unwanted behaviour from people that will hang at at the carpark late at night or intoxicated persons walking to and from the restaurant. This will cause issues for the surrounding residents.
3. This will have a dangerous impact on local business such as Joe's milk Bar, three flamingoes and other small take away food and coffee stores. Many businesses will close down.
4. Rubbish will litter the streets. There's already a problem with the shopping precinct and large amounts of rubbish blowing into neighbour residents properties.
The only good thing will be it will bring jobs for the young people of Albion park but most of those should be from the businesses that are forced to close due to loosing business.
Traffic Management would need to be addressed for this application. Access and egress locations have to be planned to reduce traffic congestion on both Tongarra Road and Terry Streets. Access would be feasible from both Tongarra Road and Terry Street but egress would only work on Terry Street due to the closeness of the site to the road intersection. Also vehicles travelling south and trying to turn into the site across Terry Street would cause traffic buildup and congestion so concrete barriers should be installed to prevent this. To assist traffic flow you should review the intersection lights to allow a right hand turn off Tongarra Road into Terry Street at all times, this would alleviate the previous traffic issue.
KFC already generates traffic issues and alot of garbage being dumped. Another junk food place is not needed here and I am strongly opposed to this application.
This is a terrible idea and will only target high school kids to continue eating junk food
the traffic is already congested through Albion park and with the illawarra highway closed, entry to albion park for those not able to get on and off via the bypass is going to be through station road and down tongarra road. it is already very congested!!
in the interest of the health and well being of the young people in our town and the environment and traffic and safety, this application should not be approved.
I express concern of this from a traffic and parking management perspective and also that of a pedestrian impact. This is an incredibly busy intersection with a great deal of foot traffic and this seems to be a very small lot to build a McDonald’s on. Not opposed to McDonald’s being in Albion Park, just concerned with it being on this particular lot.
Traffic congestion is already an issue, the shops across the street is a shambles, when a semi-trailer tanker refills the service station it drives through the car park to get to the servo. Looking at the plan I’m wondering how the delivery truck, especially the semi, will be able to reverse in the loading area, or reverse out without causing major traffic problems, and we are led to believe staff will assist with traffic control, is McDonald’s going to used trained qualified staff for such events.
Albion park does not need another big chain restaurant. This will have major traffic issues unless a vital change to traffic plans/flow is implemented. The amount of rubbish and pollution that McDonalds restaurants generates into the surroundings and the impact of this can be seen worldwide.. can’t go out in the public without seeing discarded McDonald’s packaging within waterways, parks or on the side of roads.
We already have such a high obesity problem in the world, why not make it easier for the small buisness’ to get the opportunity instead of only making it in reach for a multi millionaire company.
As a council, you should be thinking about the essentials that are needed within the Albion Park community and surrounding new suburbs such as Tullimbar and Calderwood.
Another petrol station or supermarket for example would be more appropriate seeing as it is essential to every day life and is evidently needed. (Only one supermarket to provide for 3 suburbs and people/housing numbers are still expanding and growing)
I’m conclusion, better options available that are more necessary and would still be providing opportunities for employment and stimulating the economy.
No to McDonalds in Albion Park.
Being that the traffic is already at capacity at the Tongarra Rd and Terry St traffic lights and was before the lack of forward planning on Councils behalf when approving the residential development in Calderwood. This development would add significantly to congestion which is unnecessary being that a McDonalds is located a short distance away. I am sincerely concerned with the additional impact to the surrounding streets that will have to cope with additional traffic using their streets to get in and out of the restaurant and back into the highway. The decision to approve this development would not be in the public interest and would only cater to corporate greed. PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT!
Traffic Management would need to be addressed for this application. Access and egress locations have to be planned to reduce traffic congestion on both Tongarra Road and Terry Streets. Access would be feasible from both Tongarra Road and Terry Street but egress would only work on Terry Street due to the closeness of the site to the road intersection. Also vehicles travelling south and trying to turn into the site across Terry Street would cause traffic buildup and congestion so concrete barriers should be installed to prevent this. To assist traffic flow you should review the intersection lights to allow a right hand turn off Tongarra Road into Terry Street at all times, this would alleviate the previous traffic issue.
This will cause a nightmare for congestion in the centre of Albion Park township, it is already hard enough to get home via Terry Street, the town planner, council and RMS will have to review how to further improve traffic flow through this intersection. It will also negatively affect many small businesses that operate in Albion Park as they will be struggling to compete with a large international franchise.
There is already a McDonald’s only a 5 minute drive away from the proposed location which has ease of access and enough parking facilities to cater for the surrounding area. I don’t believe a McDonald’s is what Albion Park needs to further improve and cater for the town
Something more functional like a 7-11 would have been preferable in this location. No petrol stations on any main roads in Albion Park for so many residents is a major inconvenience. The poor residents on the boundary of this site will have their homes stunk out and I can’t stand the thought of how much McDonalds litter will be around. There are many more preferable options other than McDonalds. We have one 5 minutes away: that’s enough
We do not need one there in 5 mins we can be at one. This postion would cause traffic chaos and the amount of rubbish will increase. The one at apr is perfect postion lots of parking easy to get to.
We need something more useful and practical that isn't fast food or that will impact the traffic situation.
Maccas in albion park is a terrible idea and we do not need it.
This is not a suitable location for McDonalds or any fast food out let. The site is not large enough to hold the building as well as off street parking. Safe access to the site is restricted due to the close proximity of traffic lights. You would only be able to enter or exit in one direction due to traffic flow. Due to this there would be a significant increase in the chances of traffic accidents. Another McDonalds is not required in the area as there is one situated just 5 minutes up the road in a much better location. Also the increase in litter as uncaring people like to just drop their left over packaging where ever.
Awesome can’t wait for my late night McFlurry lol at least I don’t have to go to the other maccas they are hopeless.
Please consider, not only the socio effects of another fast food establishment in Albion Park , especially when there is one only 5 minutes down the road in Albion Park Rail. It would be preferred that we see something that promotes healthy eating and well being be put into the area. Perhaps a high quality cafe with outdoor seating, where community can come together over coffee and long lunches. Even a licenced premises that caters for dinner. A McDonald's does nothing for the appeal of the town. It does not promote community connectedness and surely does not promote healthy eating. McDonald's are put in to low socio eeconomical areas.... it is sad enough that we have to tolerate a KFC... adding a McDonalds into the culture is like rubbing salt into the wounds or should I say... adding salt to the high blood pressure or fat to the arteries and waist lines of our residents. With all that we know about health and nutrition in today's society it is criminal of council to promote this sort of development. It promotes laziness, rather than a healthy home cooked meal... quick availability and often pester power become a convenience. There's an old saying... what the eye don't see the heart don't grieve for! This is especially true of children. So.... Please dont let this happen to our town. Shellharbour Council do the right thing for once!
This development should not go ahead. The reason we have so many unhealthy Adults and Children in our society, can be blamed on fast food outlets. Do not need a another, particularly on such a site such as this.
This block has been an eyesore in Albion Park for to long, multiple development attempts have failed, this will give a bit of life to the main intersection and badly needed employment to younger Albion park residents, the traffic issues in Albion Park need to be solved by building the Tripoli Way Extension Project, missing out on a good development like this because of people no in my backyard or anti corporate attitudes will leave a dirty vacant weed filled block in the heart of Albion Park for another 20 years.
This is a stupid idea.
Imagine what this will do to traffic in the area! Especially on a Friday afternoon.
With the new set of lights on Tongarra road along with the one lane each way, adding McDonald's to it will be a nightmare!
Its already a nightmare to get to Woolworths car park when the KFC drive through is busy.
What's a McDonald's going to do to the traffic!!!
It will certainly stop me from going anywhere near albion park! Ide rather drive to Stoney Range than to put up with that!
Unlike the people who live in Albion Park/Calderwood!
Ridiculous idea!
Keep McDonald's where it is in Albion Park Rail. Its worked for years!
Fantastic idea. More opportunities for the young kids. That block has been a eyesore
The idea of a McDonald's on this small site is absolutely wrong on so many levels. Think of the traffic nightmare during the daytime let alone at school start/finish times, as well as the morning and afternoon peak hours. Already, KFC customers block traffic on the rear lane into Woolworths and the hotel, so the last thing Albion Park needs is another junk food outlet.
There are plenty of food outlets in Albion Park who will definitely feel the downturn in trade with a McDonald's close by.
The RMS and Council need to seriously consider traffic flow as it stands now, without the detrimental effect of extra traffic so close to the traffic lights intersection.
The needs of the residents, especially those nearby to this site, should be well and truly considered and should come before any decision is made.
The existing McDonald's at Albion Park Rail is only 3.1 klms down the road, and they're worried that with the opening of the bypass, the trade will reduce during peak holiday times and normal trading hours, so why not make extra money by building on a too small site and create traffic chaos as well !!
Albion Park does not need a multi-millionaire company in town.
This site has been an eyesore for years but it would definitely benefit from something better than a junk food outlet.
The height, scale and massing of the proposed structures will dominate the surrounds and not respond positively to the surrounding context.
The hours of operation of the proposed business will create unacceptable amenity impacts upon the surrounding area.
There is an over-intensification of this land use type in the suburb and surrounds - we don't need more - we need to fight back against bland strip mall type development and also defend our childrens' health.
We need to have an attractive tourist route for the south coast if it just feels like part of Sydney tourists will be repelled.
Insufficient information has been provided regarding the impacts of the development and their management in the context of pests, vermin, traffic, light, noise and odour upon the surrounding area.
The height, scale and massing of the proposal represents an overdevelopment of the site.
On balance the proposal represents an inappropriate planning outcome and the only appropriate decision of the Responsible Authority is one of Refusal.
All for it ✅
Can see why McDonalds is putting it there as the new Illawarra Hwy off ramp leads to this intersection, anyone from Sydney heading south since the bypass is complete, this will now be readily accessible especially if heading to Jamberoo.
In regards to traffic issues. The Tripoli Way bypass needs to be fast tracked to mitigate the congestion on Tongarra Road.
A service station would be better suited on the Illawarra Hwy northern on/off ramp.
To anyone reading these comments. Shellharbour Council have replied to me saying that they will not accept submissons from an external website. You must send your submission to council@shellharbour.nsw.gov.au. While this website is useful, the submission must be direct to Council. the letter I received as per below.
So, please send submissions direct by COB 16.8.21 URGENTLY.
" In this regard we write to advise you that in accordance with Shellharbour City Councils Community Participation Plan (CPP), Council is unable to consider submissions that are received through an external website. A copy of the CPP is found within the below link.
https://cdn.shellharbour.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/Plan_and_build_documents/Community_Participation_Plan.pdf
Should you wish to make a formal submission on this proposal, the submission should:
- Be received by Council on or before the last day of the exhibition timeframe (unless otherwise specified by Council)
- Be in writing (via mail, email to council@shellharbour.nsw.gov.au, or hand delivered) and addressed to: The Chief Executive Officer Shellharbour City Council Locked Bag 155 Shellharbour City Centre NSW 2529
- Contain the following essential information: the name and address of the person making the submission, the application number and address of the property that is the subject of the development proposal and detail all reasons for the submission."
This is not a good location for a Macdonalds Restaurant what so ever.
This area is a absolute disaster as it is with the current traffic congestion, its pretty much a no go zone in peak times.
It's already stressful enough to travel through Tongarra road to get to work and back each day from Tullimbar and at any day or time in general.
It takes me less time to travel from work in Industrial road Oak Flats, to the Albion Park town hall than it takes to reach my home in Tullimbar from the town hall !!
This was also the case prior to any covid restrictions...
We are not in need of any more traffic around here and we are more than happy to drive to Macdonalds in Albion Park Rail.
I sincerely hope common sense will prevail in this case.
Fantastic idea
The sight has been an eye saw. For a long time
Good on McDonald’s for submitting a beautiful
Building with parking underneath
As a local health professional, it is well evidenced that there are many negative health impacts of McDonalds and other large fast food chains, particularly when located in residential areas. I am disappointed to hear of this proposal. KFC has already changed the streetscape and health trajectory of Albion Park - increasing rubbish across the neighbourhood/&Calderwood, and will have longterm health impacts (increases in chronic diseases) for locals. The Illawarra shoalhaven already has some of the most disadvantaged suburbs in the State, and data clearly demonstrates that the health/social/environmental disadvantage is growing between our high disadvantage suburbs and more affluent suburbs. For eg. Large fast food chains aren’t in the more affluent communities - as residents know that this would have poor outcomes. I am truely concerned that fast food restaurants such as McDonald’s are being proposed in any residential areas in the 21st century, with what we know, and a commitment to building healthy cities. They have their place on the existing highway - where there are already many fast food options for those wanting to exit off and get food when travelling. Please don’t allow any future high energy/low nutrition fast food chains in residential areas of Shellharbour, we want to improve the environment for our children to grow up in, and not put them at a disadvantage. It also doesn’t make any practical sense to adding to local traffic in Albion Park.
As a local health professional, it is well evidenced that there are many negative health impacts of McDonalds and other large fast food chains, particularly when located in residential areas. I am disappointed to hear of this proposal. KFC has already changed the streetscape and health trajectory of Albion Park - increasing rubbish across the neighbourhood/&Calderwood, and will have longterm health impacts (increases in chronic diseases) for locals. The Illawarra shoalhaven already has some of the most disadvantaged suburbs in the State, and data clearly demonstrates that the health/social/environmental disadvantage is growing between our high disadvantage suburbs and more affluent suburbs. For eg. Large fast food chains aren’t in the more affluent communities - as residents know that this would have poor outcomes. I am truely concerned that fast food restaurants such as McDonald’s are being proposed in any residential areas in the 21st century, with what we know, and a commitment to building healthy cities. They have their place on the existing highway - where there are already many fast food options for those wanting to exit off and get food when travelling. Please don’t allow any future high energy/low nutrition fast food chains in residential areas of Shellharbour, we want to improve the environment for our children to grow up in, and not put them at a disadvantage. It also doesn’t make any practical sense to adding to local traffic in Albion Park.
It’s such a shame that Albion Park is being turned into a fast food strip rather than supporting and encouraging local small businesses to grow.
The traffic on Tongarra is bad enough as it is and this will only make it worse.
Such a shame that the village feel is being left behind.
Need more 24/7 stores in Albion park like 7 eleven for truckers and new Tullimbar Town Centre residents.
