Hi,
We live across the road to the carpark of this property and have had to endure daily drug deals, numerous shop break-ins, graffitti, urinating in the car-park and a whole lot of other anti-social behaviour at this property with no assistance from either the council or the police.
We already have a women's hostel in this street as well as two or more other share houses. We do not need any more short term accommodation in this street. We already have our fair share.
We no longer know who is living in this street and we no longer feel safe. Any short term accommodation such as backpackers or hostels (or anything similar to this) is just going to affect our safety and the values of our properties.
We have four generation of family living in this street, with my mum and dad living on the corner of South and Seaview Street (directly across the street from the property) and my daughter, son-in-law and her 14 month babies just a few houses further down.
I care about their safety and am concerned that the council would consider such an application.
The council has an obligation to the residents of this area. Any short term accommodation should not be considered in residential areas, it should be in the Fremantle City itself.
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Hello
Does that mean backpackers ?
Hostel?
What’s it going to be specifically?
We live opposite car park.
This immediate area has been subject to several additional licensed venues over recent years, most notably 'Running with Thieves' just across South Terrace. One of the existing venues (Madalenas) is proposing to add capacity by utilising its upper storey as a licensed venue.
In addition to any noise or other behaviours that adversely affect local residents, there has been a major increase in parking demand that has adversely affected the ability of residents to park in their streets or elsewhere close to their homes.
In the case of this application, it should not be able to rely on an 'existing' liquor licence, as this licence has not been active for some years. It should be regarded as a new application and subject to assessment as such. Approval of the other recent additional licensed premises would have been on the basis of the existing level of amenity for residents and whether the impact of additional ones would be acceptable or manageable. This 'existing level of amenity' clearly did not include the activities of a long-dormant licensed premises.
The issue of car parking for residents, who would have bought or rented their houses in the vicinity on the basis of a known and existing level of competition from patrons of licensed premises, has already, with other recent approvals, been made worse than they expected. This application and any further applications for licensed premises should be required to include a viable parking management plan, including parking provision on-site where possible.
I am extremely concerned re the development of this bar. It is only a few meters from a residential house. There is no apparent sound proofing. It has a huge extraction fan on the roof which will be noisy. It has no parking allocated. There appears to be only one entrance and exit so is a fire hazard. They propose being open to midnight even on weeknights. Patrons are likely to wander down our streets after midnight. Our houses are virtually on the footpath in these streets so we hear everything that happens in the street - people talking, car doors opening and closing. People also tend to do these things loudly when they have been drinking. How are we to get enough sleep in order to work effectively and keep our jobs so that we can pay our rates? We'd like to see some proof that this is a legal build and that the alcohol licence they are relying on actually belongs to this courtyard area and not the restaurant area in front. So disrespectful to your rate payers that you are not doing anything to stop this.
Another bar? We already have four bars on one block - madelenas, south beach hotel, la cabana, running with thieves, plus all the drinking that goes on in an evening at South Beach. In an area with a highly unsafe road crossing (Douro rd / south terrace roundabout) and where residents already have to put up with patrons and free campers taking all the street parking, drunk driving, patrons and free campers urinating on our verges and in our gardens, fighting, drunk shrieking on the streets until the small hours of the morning.
I urge the council to decline this small bar licence.
My opposition to the Small Bar Application at 388 South Tce South FREMANTLE. Below is the submission forwarded to Council by myself regarding the change of use application.
My concerns are expressed in this submission and these still apply to the proposed Liquor Licence.
I refer to the above Change of Use Application. My name is Shirley Baker and I wish to voice my strong opposition to this application. I live and own the property at 2 Commercial Street in South Fremantle. I have lived at this property for 28 years
Noise Impact Assessment
I have received a copy of the Applicant’s application. On page 2 of the Noise Impact Assessment (Assessment) it is noted that the ‘kitchen, offices, toilets and bars [will be] located along the eastern side of the site adjacent to nearby residences’. I note that the wall delineating between the applicant’s site and my [living room?] is four metres distance. I am tremendously concerned about the impact of the bar being a mere 4 metres from where I live. Whilst the Assessment concludes that the Application would be compliant with the Environmental Protection (Noise) Regulation 1997 I query table 3.2’s usage of a measure of 20 patrons to measure sound power levels. Equally as concerning is this paragraph:
Table 4.1 presents the predicted noise levels from the site at the nearby residential locations shown on Figure 1.2 for the worst case time period, nighttime, 10pm to 7am. The predications are based on the sound power levels presented in Table 3.2…
How can it be that a measurement of 20 patrons is eventually used in calculating the predicted noise levels at the ‘worst case time period’. The Applicant’s Proposed Restrictive Licence Conditions note that the ‘maximum capacity’ will be ‘the specification of a maximum number of persons to be permitted to be on the licensed premises at any one time which is to be based on the maximum occupancy certificate to be issued by the City of Fremantle’. I am assuming that this has not yet been issued. How is it that a Noise Impact Assessment can take place when there is no information provided in the Application about the realistic number of patrons on a normal or busy night. Further, how can a ‘worst case scenario’ of 20 patrons be framed as such?
I would further ask that when considering this application that you would also bear in mind that my amenity has already been affected by the collection of commercial bins for the South Beach Hotel, the Little Loaf Bakery, and Saroor, all taking place between 5:30am and 6:00am. This Application is requesting opening times of 11am – midnight (Monday – Saturdays). I ask that you please consider this impost on my amenity and way-of-life. Am I expected to acquiesce a mere 5 hours of sleep a night?
Lastly, I would also like you to consider that I am subject to the music from South Beach Hotel and Saroor most Fridays and weekends. This Assessment does not take into account the aggregate noise that I will endure most weekends in my home let alone my outdoor courtyard, should this Application be approved. I am deeply concerned that my outdoor courtyard could become entirely unusable.
Parking
How many parking bays were initially granted to the original business owners? I would argue that the demand for parking in South Fremantle has increased eightfold in recent years with much of the overflow seeping into residential streets. The increase in traffic along the southern end of South Terrace has become a nightmare of late, let alone with the increase in pedestrians as they wonder to and from establishments. To include another venue that will only add to this demand is negligent unless there are some proper car-parking planning implemented.
Bins
The plans do not clearly identify where the bins are to be kept. I am assuming that these are kept externally to the premises and potentially alongside the wall near my property. I note that storing these bins externally to the premises and so close to a residential dwelling will only further decrease the amenity of my home where I have lived for 28 years.
I ask that you please consider the contents of this letter when considering this application and that you do not support it. Please feel free to contact me with any further queries.
Kind regards
Shirley Baker
I strongly object to the development of a small bar at this location. I live in Orient Street and we have already had to suffer the noise, traffic and parking issues generated by the development of many other licensed premises in the immediate vicinity. South Fremantle is first and foremost a quiet residential area with a strong community. We do not need more alcohol-fueled venues particularly ones planning on opening until midnight every night. I gather from discussions from neighbours, La Cabana, the proposer of this development, have proven to be bad neighbours in their current iteration, with lots of noise complaints, largely ignored. As a doctor I deal with alcohol problems every day at work. Another bar offers nothing to the neighbourhood bar misery and strife. Please reject this application.
The young couple should have their own driveway and double carport. Once the building commences on the property at the back, it will be nearly impossible for them to get in and out of their property without their own driveway. The tree at the front of the house has no relevance and should be removed if required. I note that most of the trees on this street have already been removed due to the damage that their roots were causing. You will note that this particular tree is raised above the ground and that its roots are sitting on the surface making it impossible to manage the front verge. In addition the roots are cracking and raising the street and the branches are dying and falling (see google maps photo above showing dead branch on verge).
Every house should have a garage or carport for housing cars, especially when they are expensive necessities that need to be maintained. In this instance the young couple have two babies and the carport is essential to their requirements and should not be denied.
I fully agree, trees which provide home, shelter and food for birds should be protected. Trees create a better climate for us humans, too. They cool down air in summer and provide us with shade and much needed oxygen.
Thank you for keeping significant trees in our community.
The rear of this property (that sits on Hickory St) contains a significant tree, the canopy of which provides a refuge for a large number of native birds including black cockatoos. It would be a great shame to see this destroyed. Any development should endeavour to protect this environmental asset. Additionally, there is already insufficient parking for residents on Hickory Street (which this property backs on to) due to the large number of airbnb and second dwellings developments that have been build in the rear gardens of the South Terrace fronting-side of Hickory St, property owners have converted their garages to accommodation so reduced their own parking options and doubled the number of cars needing to park, there is also additional strain on the street parking due to the development of more bars and restaurants along South Terrace, as well as South Beach and CAT bus park and riders, so any residential development should consider how to avoid putting additional parking and environmental strain on this small street.
I would like to object to yet another bar in our quiet family orientated suburb. We have been here for 20 yrs and most venues along South Tce were eateries. There was one hotel (The Dav, now South Beach Hotel) which was quiet and family friendly. Our lives are being destroyed by constantly having to fight noise and alcohol based venues appearing along South Tce. Our 120yo home is made of timber, along with many other houses in the area, which is what creates the charm of South Freo. We have no protection from the noise, our houses actually vibrate with it, we can't think, work or sleep whilst it is happening. Please no more bars and please insist that existing and future venues are soundproofed so that if their customers really want loud music (which I doubt), they can have it without inflicting it on us. I am a GP who daily deals with the consequences of alcohol consumption (liver disease, cancer, dementia, depression, domestic violence, sleep apnoea, accidents etc) and can't do my job if you are constantly working against us.
As discussed at the most recent community precinct group at The local with councillors and mayor in attendance , there was a strong indication that south fremantle residents believe there are already too many bars in what is a shared residential area. The consensus was that council should consider other applications for businesses in south fremantle rather than just more bars. Madelenas is already creating their extension on the rooftop which will contribute to more noise. There is already a complete lack of parking in relation to patronage for south fremantle
Dear City Council
Over the past 10 years “the strip” of South Terrace in South Fremantle has become a hotspot of entertainment.
It would be good if resident only parking permits could be issued on streets in the area coming off South Terrace, namely Harbour St, Orient St, Mclaren St, Scott St and NOT for just Commercial St ( which is presently the case). Parking for residents has become a big issue on our streets as the popularity of venues in the area increases with time.
As rate payers we should all be considered equal.
Kind regards
Graham and Judy McLachlan
16 Orient St
South Fremantle
I strongly object to this proposal to create another bar in our previously quiet community. Four new bars including a brewery have started on the strip between Orient Street and Douro Road in the last few years. Also, South Beach Hotel has changed from being a quiet local pub to having live loud music every weekend (Friday, Saturday and Sunday). We have been plagued by noise, parking and traffic problems since these developments and feel our community is under siege.
I am a doctor and work with patients with alcohol problems, domestic violence resulting from them. We have more than enough alcohol outlets already.
Please please do not approve yet another assault on our community.
Cr.Sullivan is to be congratulated for submitting plans to upgrade/repair his Sydney St house.👍
Brilliant idea, will help a lot of lonely dogs that spends hours on their own.
Brilliant idea, will help a lot of lonely dogs that spends hours on their own.
We do not support the application for a 3 storey dwelling at 7 Westmeath Street North Fremantle WA 6159. We do not consider a 3-storey dwelling to be appropriate on the front line of properties in front of the river. All other properties along Westmeath Street (without exception) are 2 storey, as are all other properties in the adjacent Foundry Court and Hutchinson Avenue which continue along the riverfront. We feel it is important to maintain a consistent skyline along the foreshore of the river.
As per email to Fremantle Planning Department we have concerns about a new dwelling and if parking on the premises being built in the proposed plans includes car parking for 1 or 2 vehicles as this is being built on a Laneway.This is not a full width roadway.
Where are the patrons and staff going to park? Unusual for people to visit a garden centre and buy heavy products without needing their cars.... Residential side streets are already struggling with the overflow traffic from the beach and the bars...
As an adjacent neighbour what aspects of the application do we have any right over?
E.g.- the height of the building; the location( it is directly on our northern boundary); the colour of the cladding for aesthetics and possible sun reflection in summer and blocking of the mid-winter sun.
yours sincerely
Malcolm Fulwood
27 Quarry Street
This land has been kept vacant because of potential flooding in Davies Street. We have had previous flooding running into homes at 16, 18, 20 & 22 Davies St and any construction on this site must be considered in terms of potential future flooding. There have been two causes of flooding: 1) run off bringing sand and debris to block the drains to the sump adjacent to 20 Davies St. 2) hail causing the same problem. Whilst the first is less likely to occur, given the develop in Howell Vista and Curedale St, the second risk is still a potential/probable risk. As the resident of 22 Davies St, these two "100 year events" have occurred in less than 20 years. The potential for a recurrence is real and should be taken into account when considering any development of this lot.
Vehicle access issues
No parking
Major intersection adjacent
Existing nearby residents affected
Existing nearby businesses affected
Noise control issues
Unable to meet Covid 19 regulations and guidelines
Site issues with inwards goods delivery
Site issues with health and safety and waste management
No notices for this DA have been visibly displayed publicly
100% REJECT this application
Location is not suited to extended opetations
Location is not suited to loud music
Location has poor off street parking and is major risk of motorvehicle accidents, access issues
Location is not suitable for proper waste management
Additional vehicular traffic here will cause conflict with already established businesses at this location
Fremantle is well serviced already by licenced premises