All recent comments on applications from Bayside City Council (Victoria), VIC

Totally agree with Paul Scagliotti's and others comments. Bayside CC should be reminded that existing traders, especially smaller ones , should not be put in a position where their livelyhoods are threatened ,once again, by this application .
This company already has an established supermarket style liquor outlet only 4 klms away which is surely equipped to handle any local requirements.

Please do not allow another bottle shop in our small community.

We already have 3 venues to purchase takeaway alcohol. There is absolutely no need for another one.

This is a very bad idea. We already have a Dan murphy in Cheltenham. It’s pointless other than to destroy small business. It’s a disgrace from Dan Murphy and should not be given any consideration from the council.

There is no need for another bottle store in Black Rock. It is a family area where is it not appropriate to have excessive access to alcohol.

Can only echo every other comment objecting to this ridiculous and repetitive request by lawyers acting on behalf on Dan Murphy's. Black Rock village is a quiet and peaceful village that certainly does NOT require a fourth bottle shop that will only be detrimental to existing retailers. Furthermore, there is a super-sized Dan Murphy's less than 4kms away on Bay Road in Cheltenham. Its not as if those that require a Dan Murphy's will not drive there if they are that desperate. As for those representing Dan Murphy's, have some morality and ethics and seriously consider the social impact or messaging you want to send to adolescents of this area or are you that cold that promoting the consumption of alcohol that has a ridiculous amount of negative societal consequences (I'm struggling to find the positives) is some kind of panacea for our community. It is evident, no one in the area wants you to peddle your goods, so please consider somewhere else.

No no and no. They’ve already tried and lost and here they go again! This community DOES NOT need not want this large store to take over other small businesses and it detracts from the area.

Another retailer selling alcohol isn’t needed in the village. Something more diverse. No no no.

what are the dimensions of these three dwellings please ie are the one , two or three storey?

Black Rock doesn’t need a large chain bottle shop. There is already one on bay rd. Please consider small businesses and the traffic it would cause for local residents.

I am a Bayside council resident and I strongly oppose this application. Black Rock does not need a chain bottle shop. People's liquor purchasing needs are well served by the existing local businesses in the area.

Not needed, nor wanted. Plenty of existing alternatives.

Black Rock does not need a large chain bottle shop. We already have two excellent small businesses and I strongly object to the site being turned into another one. It would negatively impact these small businesses and there is absolutely no need for another bottle shop in this small village community. Please do not grant this application.

We already have two bottle shops in Black Rock so therefore there is no need for another one.

This is not the first time we are dealing with such an application. Please decline this one also!

Black Rock does not need a large chain bottle shop. It is well served by the existing small businesses and this chain would both impact on the existing small businesses, serve bulk liquor and detract from the amenity of the area.

No, no, no!

Let the little businesses thrive. Immoral to have a large chain bottle shop on the doorstep of the small one. We don't NEED another one at all.

I object:
A Large Chain Bottle Shop or any additional bottle shop will bring more vehicle traffic into an already congested bottle neck and the type of traffic that a bottle shop brings is frequent and numerous.
We can already buy bottled liquor from three locations in this tiny shopping centre.
We need diversification in this Shopping centre to keep the Shopping strip alive for all small businesses.

This is a death sentence to the retailers in the Black Rock Village who already sell alcohol.. We have fought this once before, we shall fight it again. It is ludicrous! We already have 3 outlets within a very small area.. Definitely NO to another one!

Black Rock does not need a large chain bottle shop. It is well served by the existing small businesses and this chain would both impact on the existing small businesses, serve bulk liquor and detract from the amenity of the area.

I am against another liquor outlet in Black Rock. We already have enough to serve the community. Put in a bulk food store like The Source or something that will add retail diversity to the village. We certainly do not need more alcohol retail.

This is a terrible idea. Promoting more alcohol to children and families in a tiny village area and destroying small local businesses already doing it tough. These large supermarket bottle shops should be left on the highway. I will not support this type of business in black rock or any council that approves it.

Q: If the proposed development goes ahead, will the Council/Developers make provision for ensuring that there remains adequate car parking for existing traders/businesses, whilst construction is taking place - Including the continual monitoring and enforcement of the above.

Q: If the proposed development goes ahead, how long does the developer estimate that there be traffic disruption, including reduced parking/access, to local residents and traders?

Q: Has a timeline for construction/disruption, and the areas affected, been submitted along with the proposal?

Q: Will there be financial support provided by the Council/Developers for traders/businesses who will be affected by such a large and disruptive project?

Comment:
I have seen many construction sites of similar size, where no consideration was given to local residents and businesses during the construction phase, and parking and foot traffic, so valuable to local livelihoods, were taken up by Construction workers' vehicles and trucks.

I have seen many businesses lose their customers when parking, foot traffic and easy access to their business were removed for an extended period of time. This resulted in many businesses failing to remain viable, and ultimately, ceasing to exist.

The past 2.5 years have been difficult enough without another threat to our livelihoods.

Q: The area affronting Weatherall Road, directly in front of the proposed apartments, will this be used to add much-needed car parking?
Q: How many extra spaces will be added ?

The proposal states that car parking is not required!
Letter from 30/03/22
- Jack Luo to To: Ziqi Xi
Principal Statutory Planner
Bayside City Council

" Traffic and Parking
Tribunal accepted retail and visitor parking reduction. The revised plan improved safety and access of traffic. The traffic volume was surveyed as low even during peak hour. The development will increase on-street-parking-spots, and there are plenty of vacant on-street-parking-spots most of time."

Everyone who lives, works and runs a business in the area knows that this is not the case.
From Yoga classes, Football/Cricket and other activities at the Jack Barker Oval/Cheltenham Recreation Reserve, directly opposite the proposed apartments, parking on weekends is at a premium with all car parks taken in front of the shops, and along all streets and all side streets.

The application says '2 or more additional dwellings'. How many dwellings will be built on this property which is 570sqm? They couldn't possibly fit more than 2, could they?

This is terrible. Multiple subdivision of a standard lot. More information needs to be provided

Considering the block is under development, it would be very convenient for the developer if these trees were removed. I would like to see Council investigate the condition of these trees independently to assess their health. Every single tree is important in the urban landscape to prevent the erosion of tree canopy cover, the destruction of wildlife habitat and reduce exposure to urban heat island effect.