14 Ryedale Rd Denistone NSW 2114

Description
Construction of part single, part double storey, 8 room plus communal new generation boarding house.
Planning Authority
City of Ryde
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Reference number
LDA2021/0122
Date sourced
We found this application on the planning authority's website on , about 4 years ago. It was received by them earlier.
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What an outrageous proposal. Yet another attempt by property developers to turn this suburb into another over-populated ghetto. A 'new generation' communal boarding house is not in keeping with the suburb and this proposal should be rejected outright.
I suppose the applicant deserves some credit for making an application with Council. There are homes being purchased all over the Ryde LGA which are being transformed, without approval, into frat houses jamned with students.
Ryde LGA does not need more medium density and high density housing. Enough already!

Chris Robertson
Delivered to City of Ryde

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This is an outrageous proposal. Fully agree with Chris Robertson.

For a start, the property was subdivided into two residential lots that was approved as far back as 30 January 2020.

These current two, yes, TWO applications: LDA 2021/0122 (cost of construction $1,148,709) and LDA 2021/0123 (construction cost $1,066,960) are BOTH for 8 room (some double bedrooms) constructions under a COMMERCIAL category. That is, two separate applications for two separate boarding houses being a total of 16 rooms that will be let on a commercial basis.

As a consequence of this high density living, there will be be pressure on the allocated parking spaces onsite and spill over pressure for onstreet parking on an already busy street. Ryedale Road carries commuter parking for nearby train station.

Aesthetically, these boarding houses will not fit the fast disappearing Federation/post war style bungalow dwelling that Denistone is known for. This is significant as quick, profit driven developments are no longer managed by local government but are to comply with State controls which ignore the attachment the residents have to their local area.

These 'new builds' are then privately certified with resultant destruction of the neighbourhood amenity with their large brutalist design, crowding, overshadowing and importantly a loss of privacy for neighbours.

These two building constructions are categorised as 'commercial' but there are no commercial properties in Denistone. Denistone is zoned residential.

This proposal is an overdevelopment of a generous site with little regard for the amenity of the surrounding residential properties: noise, aesthetics, privacy and parking.

Neighbours were NOT notified of these proposed developments as required, and to read the comment accompanying these applications that the proposal is considered to be 'of low impact to adjoining properties and surrounding environment' is wrong. It does matter and it will impact.

Dr Elizabeth LH
Delivered to City of Ryde

I fail to see how this application could be approved, or even considered especially after Ryde Council's win to have no more Manor housing, as described on the Mayor's Facebook page.
"Two years ago in April, 2018, against our wishes, the State Government changed a definition in the City of Ryde Local Environment Plan to allow for Manor Houses and terraces across Ryde's low density R2 zones.
After a long fight, the State Government approved our application to remove that definition from that zone. That means no more Manor Houses and no more terraces in our quietest streets."
Surely a boarding house cannot be considered either, as the occupancy would be far greater than that of a Manor House. There would be no room for landscaping, not to mention difficulties with traffic and street parking. I strongly object to this commercial application in any residential neighbourhood.

Barbara Buining
Delivered to City of Ryde

I have recently become aware of this development proposal and although i live in a medium density dwelling, i would sincerely dislike to see such a building in the area which would house so many people. Denistone is a quiet suburb and NOT a commercial zoned area. Of course we know that Councils bend over backwards to accommodate developers.....but at what cost to the overall suburb and its inhabitants
I would strongly recommend a reconsideration of this proposal.

Jilda Coles
Delivered to City of Ryde

I fail to see why a commercial property is being built in an area that is zoned as residential. There will be a complete change to the ambiance of this neighbourhood, where I suspect that many of the residents have lived for a very long time and have valued the peace and quiet that their surroundings have afforded them. As well as noise encroachment, there will be extra burdens placed on parking and traffic flows. It seems entirely unfair to impose, what is essentially a frat house in a neighbourhood where it does not belong. The development per se is not unreasonable but its location is. This area will be devalued and I suspect that many of the current residents will be much aggrieved to find an imposed, unwanted and possibly quickly derelict looking behemoth in their previously quieter oasis.Consideration should be given as to why these residents chose to live in an area that they deemed to be residential rather than commercial.

Mercina Simos
Delivered to City of Ryde

What is a "new generation" boarding house? Unless it's defined in a standard that will be enforced somewhere this kind of attempted spin in a development proposal should see it thrown out on principle.

Peter Johnstone
Delivered to City of Ryde

Disgusting. AGAIN, this is a sneaky attempt to infect Denistone, where the ONLY winner is the property owner, all of which is at the expense of residents. ONE winner, and THOUSANDS of losers. Greed is not an Australian value, yet it is all that is driving 'wanna be' property developers with zero insight to Denistone's needs.

WE DO NOT NEED THIS.

Why are the newly built units in Meadowbank and Melrose Park empty?

Again, WE DO NOT NEED THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT DOES NOTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

Denistone is a community of people who care for their homes, yards, and way of life, because they own it. They understand the value of gardens with space to live, and recognise that cramped living would decrease life satisfaction and wellbeing.

STOP DESTROYING the gifts we have, which is low density, calm suburbs with greenery. Nobody wants the hustle and bustle of city life next door to them.

People CRAVE homes that are peaceful and a place of rest from work and noise.

STOP CONGESTING DENISTONE. Once communities grow into medium and high density, there is no turning back. "Hello, I'd like to knock down your boarding house to replace it with 2 nice homes and plant some wonderful trees there." Like that's ever going to happen.

PROTECT DENISTONE'S TRANQUILITY!

Resident Nick
Delivered to City of Ryde

This is an outrageous proposal. Fully agree with Chris Robertson.

For a start, the property was subdivided into two residential lots that was approved as far back as 30 January 2020.

These current two, yes, TWO applications: LDA 2021/0122 (cost of construction $1,148,709) and LDA 2021/0123 (construction cost $1,066,960) are BOTH for 8 room (some double bedrooms) constructions under a COMMERCIAL category. That is, two separate applications for two separate boarding houses being a total of 16 rooms that will be let on a commercial basis.

As a consequence of this high density living, there will be be pressure on the allocated parking spaces onsite and spill over pressure for onstreet parking on an already busy street. Ryedale Road carries commuter parking for nearby train station.

Aesthetically, these boarding houses will not fit the fast disappearing Federation/post war style bungalow dwelling that Denistone is known for. This is significant as quick, profit driven developments are no longer managed by local government but are to comply with State controls which ignore the attachment the residents have to their local area.

These 'new builds' are then privately certified with resultant destruction of the neighbourhood amenity with their large brutalist design, crowding, overshadowing and importantly a loss of privacy for neighbours.

These two building constructions are categorised as 'commercial' but there are no commercial properties in Denistone. Denistone is zoned residential.

This proposal is an overdevelopment of a generous site with little regard for the amenity of the surrounding residential properties: noise, aesthetics, privacy and parking.

Neighbours were NOT notified of these proposed developments as required, and to read the comment accompanying these applications that the 'development will have LITTLE IMPACT on neighbouring properties' is wrong. It does matter and it will impact.

Dr Elizabeth LH
Delivered to City of Ryde

There are planning controls such as S149 instruments that expressly prohibited boarding houses, along with bulk stores, caravan parks, commercial premises, motels, etc on this site.

Has Council and State Planning reneged on this and cherry picked development advantageous to fiscal bottom line?

Elizabeth LH
Delivered to City of Ryde

H and A Mishra

We, the residents of Elston Avenue, Denistone strongly object to this development in our immediate neighbourhood as it impacts on all the residents here.

This will create chaos and further aggravate the parking situation on the road as the developers are offering only 4 parking spaces.

There were very strict guidelines of what could or couldn't be done by the residents here in terms of development. So, why are those rules being overlooked now in the interest of the developers who only look for their profit and nothing else.?

Zahida and Hirday Mishra
Delivered to City of Ryde

A note to the residents who have objected to this plan.
If the application is within the council guidelines it will be allowed.
If you want your objection to be considered by council take the time (and it takes a lot of time) to visit the council website, download all the planning documents and then make an objection based on what planning codes you feel are not being met.
My daughter lodged an objection last year to a boarding house near her (in West Ryde). She made a ten page submission and the result was that the developer withdrew the application.

Robert Budniak
Delivered to City of Ryde

It can also pay to hire an independent town planner to write you objection based on all the relevant codes not being complied with. They have the knowledge to do this where many residents will not. I have successfully challenged 2 developments in my area this way. Cost about $200 to get a letter written.

Jason Rumble
Delivered to City of Ryde

These two applications are inappropriate for Rydale Rd. I have these concerns.
Parking issues - 4 spaces not enough
Overcrowding - up to 32 residents is too many
Public health - how will the bins be put out & stored
Noise pollution
Loss of privacy
Loss of community spirit as this may be a transitory population.
Loss of 7 trees, one of which a Black Bean is a protected species
Making this a precedent . The category this is under is Commercial. We are zoned Residential and there are no commercial premises in Denistone

Terry Godfrey
Delivered to City of Ryde

As a resident in Ryedale Road.
I am extremely concerned about:
- the effect on street parking, which is already compromised due to the railway station nearby.
- this commercial development is not in keeping with the area or the street.
- the noise, congestion and aesthetics affecting residents within our long-term residential home-owner community.

Rachel Attwater
Delivered to City of Ryde

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