45 Cherry Street Warrawee NSW 2074

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Demolition of existing structures and construction of a new dwelling with pool, front fence and associated works - Heritage Conservation Area
Planning Authority
Ku-ring-gai Council
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Reference number
DA0146/20
Date sourced
We found this application on the planning authority's website on , almost 5 years ago. It was received by them earlier.
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I am the daughter of the original owner / builder of this property, built in 1968. I don't have any real emotional attachment to the structure so I wouldn't stand in the way of progress for sentimental reasons.

HOWEVER, I think it is important that you AND the new owners understand the signficance of the bricks used in its construction. They are rare, historic "sandstock" bricks ALL of which came from the Clifton Gardens Hotel in Mosman, which was demolished in 1967.

I want to owners to know this and perhaps the bricks can be recycled once more for another construction. A piece of Sydney history.

Sally Bell nee Morgan
Sent to Ku-ring-gai Council

Further to my other comment above... I have some amazing new information that may be of interest.

It has been confirmed to me that the sandstock bricks from the Clifton Gardens Hotel used in the construction of this dwelling were ***convict made***. This makes sense, as the Hotel was built in 1821.

The Mosman Historical Society is very keen on finding out more about the progress of this development and its approval, as they would be very keen to have some of the bricks potentially to erect a memorial of sorts on the Hotel's site, or similar. They are going to try and get in touch with the current owners to discuss.

It has also come to my attention that some of the detail in the Heritage Impact Statement on the Ku-ring-gai Council website is incorrect/incomplete, as regards the timeline / history relating to the property.

It is fascinating to find out that a Geoffrey and Phyllis Lander secured the property in 1960. The report states that "the Lander family retained an interest in the property until at least 1988" and the title has not been investigated further. What ACTUALLY happened was that my parents, Ray and Judith Morgan, bought the property in 1966 / 1967. I don't know the meaning of Chalice Pty Ltd, the supposed owner in 1966... was that a developer... or was that a company name my parents used to purchase the land? I truly do not know. Anyway, my parents built the structure that is on the land today, using the Clifton Gardens Hotel convict-made bricks as discussed. We moved in early September 1968. My parents then sold the property in 1986 (as per the newspaper clipping in the Heritage Impact Statement) to... wait for it... Russell and Margot LANDER!!! I can only imagine they were particularly keen to buy the property because it would seem that Russell's parents (or grandparents??) owned it previously! Amazing! These younger Landers owned the property for 33 years, right up until it was sold late last year, 2019, to the current owners who are seeking to demolish it.

Sally Bell
Sent to Ku-ring-gai Council

Now a third comment to add to my previous comments. Having now read the Heritage Impact Statement more fully, it would appear to me that your findings under 4.5.1 Criterion A are incorrect, and that with the information I have provided, the existing dwelling is indeed "important in the course, or pattern, of New South Wales’ cultural or natural history"... or at least the building materials are!!

The document also says the dwelling was erected in the early 1960s, when it was actually the late 1960s (1968). It also indicates the original architect / designer has not been identified... I can also do that for you. I don't remember his first name but he was a Mr Bayfield. I have the original plans somewhere, as does my brother, so I could find out more if you wished.

One last thing... the Lander family... the ones who purchased the property from my parents, made two significant changes to the property during their tenure. They extended the large formal living room substantially to the north AND they filled in our below ground pool which sat between the dwelling and the tennis court. Perhaps the shell of it is still there!!!

Sally Bell
Sent to Ku-ring-gai Council

Correction... Clifton Gardens Hotel was built in 1871 not 1821 sorry. Still quite believable that the bricks were the result of convict labour.

Sally Bell
Sent to Ku-ring-gai Council

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